I love the article, a lot of coherent and well-integrated thoughts. here's a few things for you to think about going forward:
1. how exactly does a metamodern religion of this kind actually start and grow? we can have the most brilliant framework but if there is no product-market-fit with an initial community, a strategy to grow virally etc. – nothing will ever happen
2. how centralized or decentralized is it? it should be a network of networks with what Rutt calls coherent pluralism at the center. i am into sex cults in opulent palaces. someone else might be into stoic ascetism. what do we have in common?
3. what is the consolidated view of such a religion on techno-optimistic acceleration a la e/acc vs environmental conservatism? this is going to be one of the central conflicts of the 21st century where some of us (inc myself) want to become disembodied techno-gods, whereas others want to keep humanity as is and restrict change.
4. how is such a religion interacting with the modern major nation-states esp China and the US? these are memetic power structures that dominate the world and will resist anything that becomes significant that wakes people up to the illusory nature of their memes
many very interesting questions. look forward to the next post
> how exactly does a metamodern religion of this kind actually start and grow? we can have the most brilliant framework but if there is no product-market-fit with an initial community, a strategy to grow virally etc. – nothing will ever happen
Massive, game changing superiority (not 5% or 50% better, I am talking *orders of magnitude*) seems like the only possible (to win) option to me. It worries me that in all these communities (I know no exception, *and I've seen lots*) seem to think some hard work, mildly better thinking, positivity and inclusivity, etc is enough to carry the day. I don't think people have a clue what power (magnitude, *or kind*) they are up against.
> how centralized or decentralized is it? it should be a network of networks with what Rutt calls coherent pluralism at the center. i am into sex cults in opulent palaces. someone else might be into stoic ascetism. what do we have in common?
Contrary to most "expert" opinion, I think a (benevolent) dictatorship, with *extreme* concentration of power (and willingness to exercise it, sometimes brutally) is needed. (Early Microsoft, SpaceX, etc are decent examples, except without all the bad stuff).
> what is the consolidated view of such a religion on techno-optimistic acceleration a la e/acc vs environmental conservatism? this is going to be one of the central conflicts of the 21st century where some of us (inc myself) want to become disembodied techno-gods, whereas others want to keep humanity as is and restrict change.
My policy: expose them for what they are: *delusional, poorly thought out hallucinations*. The thinking of *children*.
> how is such a religion interacting with the modern major nation-states esp China and the US? these are memetic power structures that dominate the world and will resist anything that becomes significant that wakes people up to the illusory nature of their memes
Make them a deal they can't refuse, or will regret refusing if they weren't smart enough to figure it out up front (this obviously has a dependency on #1 working out).
I love the article, a lot of coherent and well-integrated thoughts. here's a few things for you to think about going forward:
1. how exactly does a metamodern religion of this kind actually start and grow? we can have the most brilliant framework but if there is no product-market-fit with an initial community, a strategy to grow virally etc. – nothing will ever happen
2. how centralized or decentralized is it? it should be a network of networks with what Rutt calls coherent pluralism at the center. i am into sex cults in opulent palaces. someone else might be into stoic ascetism. what do we have in common?
3. what is the consolidated view of such a religion on techno-optimistic acceleration a la e/acc vs environmental conservatism? this is going to be one of the central conflicts of the 21st century where some of us (inc myself) want to become disembodied techno-gods, whereas others want to keep humanity as is and restrict change.
4. how is such a religion interacting with the modern major nation-states esp China and the US? these are memetic power structures that dominate the world and will resist anything that becomes significant that wakes people up to the illusory nature of their memes
many very interesting questions. look forward to the next post
These are good questions!
My take:
> how exactly does a metamodern religion of this kind actually start and grow? we can have the most brilliant framework but if there is no product-market-fit with an initial community, a strategy to grow virally etc. – nothing will ever happen
Massive, game changing superiority (not 5% or 50% better, I am talking *orders of magnitude*) seems like the only possible (to win) option to me. It worries me that in all these communities (I know no exception, *and I've seen lots*) seem to think some hard work, mildly better thinking, positivity and inclusivity, etc is enough to carry the day. I don't think people have a clue what power (magnitude, *or kind*) they are up against.
> how centralized or decentralized is it? it should be a network of networks with what Rutt calls coherent pluralism at the center. i am into sex cults in opulent palaces. someone else might be into stoic ascetism. what do we have in common?
Contrary to most "expert" opinion, I think a (benevolent) dictatorship, with *extreme* concentration of power (and willingness to exercise it, sometimes brutally) is needed. (Early Microsoft, SpaceX, etc are decent examples, except without all the bad stuff).
> what is the consolidated view of such a religion on techno-optimistic acceleration a la e/acc vs environmental conservatism? this is going to be one of the central conflicts of the 21st century where some of us (inc myself) want to become disembodied techno-gods, whereas others want to keep humanity as is and restrict change.
My policy: expose them for what they are: *delusional, poorly thought out hallucinations*. The thinking of *children*.
> how is such a religion interacting with the modern major nation-states esp China and the US? these are memetic power structures that dominate the world and will resist anything that becomes significant that wakes people up to the illusory nature of their memes
Make them a deal they can't refuse, or will regret refusing if they weren't smart enough to figure it out up front (this obviously has a dependency on #1 working out).
> for the best possible
Still clinging to Faith are we? ;)
Sorry, I couldn't resist!